http://barbosa2007.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] barbosa2007.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] transitions1012015-07-05 03:36 pm
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[2015.08] MORE - Love and Betrayal

It's been a while since I last translated a MORE article (i.e. 2010), but a few friends pointed me in the direction of this article and I dived back in. Enjoy!

MORE 2015.08_0001

Filming for the movie, “Haha to Kuraseba” had begun. His strong association with Japanese cinematic titan Yamada Youji and Yoshinaga Sayuri continues. When we asked him about his thoughts, he said in an easygoing manner, “We always have a great time. I receive a lot of valuable direction from Director Yamada, but I don’t get nervous.” As for why he remains a level person no matter who he’s interacting with or where he is, it’s because he doesn’t place people into different categories.

I think that putting people into different categories indicates a sort of superiority complex. In my line of work, it’s important to have people whom you can trust, but it’s troublesome to have to categorize people that way, and it’s also meaningless to do so. I trust not only Director Yamada who’s an experienced veteran, but also everyone whom I’m working with. Given the choice to trust someone or not, I’d choose to trust everybody. It would be arrogant of me to exclude the people whom I distrust, or give preferential treatment to the ones I do trust. But it is difficult to apply this practice to my personal life, which is probably why I stopped going out as much. (laughs)

“Trusting everyone that you meet.” Another way of putting it could be, “Not trusting anyone in particular.” When I said that, he replied, “That’s probably true. (laughs)” That being said, there are people whom he trusts.

It’s obvious, but I trust my family. And the members of Arashi. But if my feelings for Arashi were defined as “trust”, then I’d pretty much be distrusting everyone else. (laughs) I guess the time we had spent together and our shared experiences made our relationship a special one? I’m sure those aren’t the only factors, but I don’t know. You can’t designate a reason for truly important feelings. However, I think it’s possible to be betrayed by the people whom you trust deeply. In order to feel a negative emotion such as betrayal, you’d have to love and hold expectations for the other party, right? I think it can’t be helped no matter who betrays my trust.

Even if you were betrayed by Aiba-kun, someone who knows you inside out like an older brother? A companion who stays by your side like Ohno-kun, a tolerant and reassuring person like Sakurai-kun, or an absolutely faithful person like Matsumoto-kun; would Nino be fine even if they betrayed you?

Hmm. It’d be something different from shock. I’d think, “Oh, so that’s the kind of person he is.” I mean, humans are multi-faceted creatures, and people often fall into conflict with their siblings or parents. Humans are creatures who can unconsciously betray the trust of someone else. (laughs)

All humans have flaws. It’s normal to be dissatisfied in a relationship.

Nino is resigned to his own truths when constructing relationships with other people.

Relationships without vested interests, such as friendships and romantic relationships, are simple. We’re together because we like each other, but when we cease to like each other, we grow apart. However, when you’re at work or in a marriage, where there’s a contract involved, it’s something which affects your livelihood. Even if you start feeling negatively about the other person, you can’t break off the relationship easily. A person who readily destroys such a relationship wouldn’t be able handle a relationship with someone else. That’s why I think humans have flaws by default, so I try not to look at other people’s weaknesses.

He’s the kind of person who’s able to see the flaws in people, that’s why he consciously avoids looking at them.

Before I see a person too clearly, I tend to play games while talking to them. (laughs) After knowing everything about a person, I feel that it’s fine to just see the parts of the person that I want to see. Isn’t this a tactic which you can use at the workplace or in a marriage? I’m sure there are women who want their relationship to remain lovey dovey, or hope that their partner will always view them as a woman, but that in itself is unusual. (laughs) There isn’t a relationship which will remain unchanged, and wives will grow weary of their husbands as the years go by. Isn’t that the norm? I think it would be easier if people could subscribe to that.

And one more thing. Nino values this when it comes to relationships with others.

I don’t want to create a hierarchical relationship with the people that I associate with. I simply hate it. It’s especially true for people whom I’m close to at work or in my personal life. I dislike fighting over who gets to take the lead (in the relationship); since it’s troublesome, I simply subscribe to my own way of “taking the lead”. For example, if the other party so desires, I would allow him* to do what he wants, keep quiet and follow his lead. I just need to be strong enough to be myself so that my partner is free to do whatever he wants. That’s what relationships are to me.

T/N: Nino doesn’t specify a gender for “the other party” mentioned in his speech, so pronouns which denote the male gender can also be used to denote the female gender.

A change in thinking based on his unique philosophy.

I think two people who struggle to take the lead in a relationship end up being in the same position. That’s why I feel it’s also fine, on the surface, to leave the decisions up to the other party. Even if he ends up receiving the credit, what’s important is that he feels good about it, and things remain harmonious. However, when he’s about to falter, I need to be strong enough to be able to pick him up in order to avoid the worst possible situation.



This is dedicated to @FindAiba, @JesuDesu, @kyraensui, @leana9101 and @ToBeFree0714. Because peer pressure is effective at times.

Scans: nada

Translator's note: I'm a little out of practice with MORE articles. (Nino speaks in long sentences!) Do let me know if you spot any translation errors.

[identity profile] vie-luth.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you very much for sharing this...
Nino's opinion always amazes me... always makes me think....

If I could conclude from his interview: You can trust all people around you, but you have to know that maybe one day he/she will betray you..

For me, like Nino, family is the one I trust the most. Family is the place that I can come whenever I want..

[identity profile] nino1711azuki.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
so glad you translated this 'It'
thank you <3

[identity profile] maimailove13.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
Thank so much for translating this. Nino is so deep! Gaaaaahd! He's so ideal. :)

[identity profile] raechullie.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 09:12 am (UTC)(link)

thank you for sharing~
i think Nino have an open mind, I like his views with regards to relationships and i can actually say that im like that too. ^^

[identity profile] aistorm3104.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 10:20 am (UTC)(link)
Awwhhhh nino won my heart all over again...
He wins my heart again and again repeatedly everytime with his MORE interview..
I like the kinda man he is.. His ideals and stuffs..
He speaks as if he is speaking something out of a lot of experience.. Or thats at least what i think.
I love this man a lot DAMN!! <3 <3

Thanks a lot for the translations!! :D
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[identity profile] ruri-08.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 10:27 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for translating and sharing this! :)

[identity profile] nunuuu.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
Ahhh, this interview. No matter how many people pick Nino's brain apart, I don't think he'll become any less mysterious. This interview is pretty telling though. I like how he sees trust as a stance in dealing with other people--by being strong enough, on his own, to allow for a kind of harmony that suits a particular relationship. It's so simple but it's not a concept that most people would be able to articulate the way he does.

But if my feelings for Arashi were defined as “trust”, then I’d pretty much be distrusting everyone else.
This hit me right in the gut. Ah, Nino. <3

[identity profile] nunuuu.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 10:31 am (UTC)(link)
PS: Thanks for translating and sharing with us! :)

[identity profile] junaibanina.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for sharing.

[identity profile] inachan89.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 11:40 am (UTC)(link)
I get him, my family and my best friend,who i've known since forever, are the people i trust the most. There may be disappointments,but that's normal,people have flaws.

Even if sometimes i'd like to see Nino take the lead,since he's often seen as a passive person,i like the fact that he just wants to keep things harmonius and that he'll readily be there when the other needs help.

I really liked this interview,thanks for sharing!

[identity profile] deelovesryo.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 11:55 am (UTC)(link)
Very interesting, thanks for sharing!

[identity profile] sasskumoto.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)

I JUST WANNA HUG NINO SO MUCH OMG. i get scared on his opinion on these kind of things bc i just can't help but think that he experienced something unpleasant i feel like he needs to be loved by someone that'll make him trust in "relationship" "love" and those kind of stuff. i just want him to have a positive outlook towards those without thinking that much. i agree with his opinion regarding hierarchical relationship and i know he's a 32 year old adult who knows what he's doing but i just want him to enjoy life T.T like be that kind of person who gets excited in little things that his partner does, be genuinely in love without thinking too much. gdi neen be selfish even for a moment. >< i'm not saying i know him and his life bc i'm just a fan, i can only support him. but you know what i mean. i hope you know what i mean >< haha

thank you for the translation! sorry i ended up talking too much >

[identity profile] flitterfly5.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I love this interview. You get the feeling that sometimes, Nino is just tired of giving the happy, well schooled "idol" answers to life, and I feel like maybe he always puts Arashi in a category of its own because these four men are perhaps the only ones who really understand that.

Thanks for translating! I don't usually pay that much attention to More, but this puts it on my radar!

[identity profile] ennui-rei.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 01:20 pm (UTC)(link)
thank you! it has been a while since i last read a translated article. this is a good read. great work!

[identity profile] hanacaraka.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 01:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Owh Neen :),,,how I always love your thoughts...otsukare!

[identity profile] yazura.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)

Thank you so much for sharing this lovely pieces 😊 glad you back translating MORE,
and once again i was amazed by the way nino thinking and how he expressed it.

[identity profile] trendyref.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 01:56 pm (UTC)(link)
The way he regards relationships shows good work ethic imo.
An interesting read and quality translation. Thanks for sharing!

[identity profile] matsubunny.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you dear!

Trust is such a difficult topic, but i liked how he talked about it.

[identity profile] lunaluca.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 02:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess the time we had spent together and our shared experiences made our relationship a special one? I’m sure those aren’t the only factors, but I don’t know. You can’t designate a reason for truly important feelings.
Awww, my heart~

Nino's been blessed with the ability to come up with profound talks and it's always interesting to hear his views on things. And although, I share a lot of his dispositions in life, his mind will always be a mystery to me.

Thank you for translating.

[identity profile] say-oh-chan.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I love his way of thinking.
Thanks for the translation ^^

[identity profile] lapetit-chou.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for sharing this!
This is precious.
I wonder what really goes on inside his head. He sometimes act like a kid, fooling around and making a mess. Then, bam! He says things like this. He makes you want to watch him just to see what he'll do next.

Thank you again!

[identity profile] qonyta.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
thank you for translating this..
Nino's interview is always deep and make me think what we can expect with human relation ship with each other :D

[identity profile] kanu-x.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you!

[identity profile] takakuflyme.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
thanks for translating and sharing this!! from this interview, you can tell that amidst all the joking, Neen is a really thoughtful and empathetic individual. and at first, i thought the photo on top was of J!! Neen has his smoulder on. :)
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[identity profile] miharu-tsuki.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeees. Thank you for translating this! :D

[identity profile] yuui1010.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 07:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, Nino rly talk alot of thigns I wouldnt understand without reading it carefully XDD
He is afterall rly smart w his words. I feel, I stil can't see his people person value.
I's strange to say this even though I'm reading it through your translaton ehehe

[identity profile] helenmaldon.livejournal.com 2015-07-05 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for translating <3 Especially these sentences that seem like they must be complicated to translate from Japanese to English! Nino is always tricky : )
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[personal profile] coolohoh 2015-07-06 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
thanks for sharing this

[identity profile] krzhope.livejournal.com 2015-07-06 04:24 am (UTC)(link)
thank you so much for the translation~ i love the pictures on this issue *__*

nino is a complicated and yet easy person...ahh i wonder what the interviewer feels when they talk to him =D
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[personal profile] ariange 2015-07-06 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
"I don’t want to create a hierarchical relationship with the people that I associate with. I simply hate it."
Seems like he's the opposite of Sho concerning this matter.

Thank you for translating!

PS. I love that picture, went right ahead to grab the scans.

[identity profile] tobefree0714.livejournal.com 2015-07-06 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
First of all THANK YOU for caving to our peer pressure.

Second, I've read this at least a half dozen times, and it's heart breaking. I can relate so much to what Nino said, because I understand the "voice" in which it was said. We may never know ... and frankly it's none of our business ... what happened to Nino, but what he is saying and how he is saying it; is coming from a person who has experienced true heartbreak and betrayal. I've personally experienced that level of betrayal in my own life and what Nino said in this interview resonates with me a a deep level.

It always kind of surprises me when I find my thinking and my views matching Nino's because he is the member it took me the longest to warm up to, maybe I'm beginning to understand why.

[identity profile] pauba.livejournal.com 2015-07-06 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You are awesome. Hihi! Thank you for translating such a lovely Nino article! It's quite amusing to see that we have similar views with regards to relationships (yes, that one wherein we don't want to always take the lead and we would prefer still having our time for ourselves and not be always clingy to the other party). Once again, thank you! :)

[identity profile] arashi4dream1.livejournal.com 2015-07-06 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)

Thank you so much for the translation. NINO 'S IT always surprise. I would like to ask your permissio  to translate it in Spanish with the correspondinh credits yo you. Thank you in advance.

[identity profile] abeechan.livejournal.com 2015-07-06 03:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Reading the majority of Nino's words felt like reading my own mind... though I think I could never put my own thoughts and feelings into such good words as Nino does xD
Thanks for translating! :D

[identity profile] ohmiyaisreal.livejournal.com 2015-07-06 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for the translation.

This article confirm again that is why he is my ichiban. :'-)

[identity profile] patorisia.livejournal.com 2015-07-07 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
great article, thank you :)

[identity profile] lylelaloo.livejournal.com 2015-07-08 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for translating this. For someone with such a complex way of thinking, I think he's quite a difficult person to read. Which makes him all the more interesting though, I guess. :|

お疲れ様でした <3

[identity profile] abtomat.livejournal.com 2015-07-08 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice read, thank you!

[identity profile] crishi.livejournal.com 2015-07-08 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Sooo interesting as usual!
Thanks a lot for translating and sharing!!

[identity profile] ryoto-yamajima.livejournal.com 2015-07-09 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
arigatou gozaimasu for sharing.. :)

[identity profile] kyosen.livejournal.com 2015-07-09 08:50 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

[identity profile] netika70.livejournal.com 2015-07-09 02:57 pm (UTC)(link)
thanks ^^

[identity profile] madsci12.livejournal.com 2015-07-11 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks so much for translating! Sometimes I think I really know Arashi but then articles like this surprise me. There's always something new, makes me love them even more!

[identity profile] waku-waku.livejournal.com 2015-07-18 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
beauuutiful insights
thanks so much for translating ♥

[identity profile] mingvase.livejournal.com 2015-08-14 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks so much for translating this! <3

[identity profile] loverainbow-jun.livejournal.com 2015-08-15 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for sharing this!!!!

[identity profile] sunrize-88.livejournal.com 2015-09-28 03:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for this! I love the way he thinks...so simple yet humble. Everybody's equal in his eyes...
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[personal profile] sarahjohnsf_89 2019-05-07 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for translating. Nino's use of gender less pronouns always interest me.